What does it mean to make art outside of market politics? To use art not as an accompaniment to activism movements but an integral tool in constructing a new order? Quetzal Flores, musician, community member, and artivist works through this question with ESII host Sage Crump.

"...oftentimes when we're talking about artists I feel like we're actually talking about culture bearers, holders of tradition, holders of culture, holders of information, holders of systems within information or systems within practices that offer us so much as to how to get ourselves out of this mess," says Flores.

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